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How does ziplock work?
by ScottE on Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:37 pm
Guess I can start by saying I don't read much sf anymore, having been displaced by nonfiction 99% of the time. I did read Old Man's War, and thought it really diverty and engaging; it also inspired me to do some minor fanart. (Anyone else done the same? I note there's at least a few other artists here on the Whateveresque.)I've read the Whatever for a longish while now (can't remember when I started).I'm not great talking about myself. I do have a website and bio there, so that's pretty well covered. II've been a graphic designer since 1992, but I prefer to talk about art, animation, paleontology and stuff, and how Ray Harryhausen is the living god.So. Hi!
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Re: How does ziplock work?
by udarnik on Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:56 pm
Scott- nonfiction - is it History or tech? I'm with you there, I'm long past the age in life where Sturgeon's law caught up with me. I just have too much to read for work and too much to do outside work to indulge in crap in the little time I have to read. I wait a while to see the reaction to a book before I buy it. It took me until a month ago to read OMW.
...Так кто ж ты, наконец? --- Я -- часть той силы, что вечно хочет зла и вечно совершает благо.Гете. "Фауст"
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Re: How does ziplock work?
by ScottE on Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:03 pm
I mostly read the technical literature encompassing vertebrate paleontology and evolutionary biology.In my case, it's not so much Sturgeon's Law, but a distinct lack of time (and, well, money is a factor as well. Would I rather own one $100 paleovert book or five fiction hardcovers?)
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Re: How does ziplock work?
by MWT on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:17 am
Perchance have you read Out of Thin Air by Peter Ward?
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Re: How does ziplock work?
by udarnik on Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:03 am
My specialty is at the stage where it's mostly papers that count, books are out-of-date in my field before they hit the press. But slogging through a series of papers from J. Chem. Phys. takes longer than the time it takes to read a novel.How often does a Vertibrate Paleontologist publish journal articles? (Academics in my area publish 5 - 8 times per year).
...Так кто ж ты, наконец? --- Я -- часть той силы, что вечно хочет зла и вечно совершает благо.Гете. "Фауст"
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Re: How does ziplock work?
by ScottE on Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:50 pm
Out of Thin Air: Not yet. It is on my list, however.My specialty is at the stage where it's mostly papers that count, books are out-of-date in my field before they hit the press. But slogging through a series of papers from J. Chem. Phys. takes longer than the time it takes to read a novel.Sure. Same with vertpaleo (at least for me). I like collections of papers becuase it's easier to get ahold of a reasonably complete overview of a specific subject that way, rather than trying to track down 12 to 80 or so separate papers (I should probably clarify that I don't have access to most of the journals I would like--I'm an amateur; someone with an academic career generally has greater access than I), and morphological descriptions of new specimens don't really stale. Interpretations will, yes, but Microraptor will always have four wings.Offhand I've no idea how often individual workers publish. I tend to follow taxa or a specific topic (such as cladistics) rather than specific researchers.
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Re: How does ziplock work?
by MWT on Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:44 pm
Hmmm. I think the general public should have access to all of the same journals. If you're near any sizable public universities, for example, you should be able to get hold of them from there. (Of course, I'm saying this as someone who has academic access and has never tried to access anything as part of the general public...)Individual scientists run the full range in how often they put out papers. Some put them out at a slow steady rate, others go for several years with seemingly no activity and then suddenly publish a whole bunch of them all at once. It all depends on funding, what else they're obligated to do (teach classes for example), whether they're tenured yet (professors who would like to teach will often drop doing any research whatsoever as soon as they hit tenure, and do teaching fulltime from then on), etc. Funding agencies and employers (home universities, research institutes, etc.) will care what individual scientists do. The actual scientists are primarily more interested by subject matter.
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Re: How does ziplock work?
by udarnik on Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:42 am
MWT wrote:Individual scientists run the full range in how often they put out papers. Some put them out at a slow steady rate, others go for several years with seemingly no activity and then suddenly publish a whole bunch of them all at once. It all depends on funding, what else they're obligated to do (teach classes for example), whether they're tenured yet (professors who would like to teach will often drop doing any research whatsoever as soon as they hit tenure, and do teaching fulltime from then on), etc. Funding agencies and employers (home universities, research institutes, etc.) will care what individual scientists do. The actual scientists are primarily more interested by subject matter.Chemistry's a bit different. If you go silent for a year, kiss your funding goodbye at the next grant review cycle. I've never met a serious researcher in Chemistry who concentrated on teaching - the guys stuck teaching were laways the slightly otherwordly Academics who didn't keep up with the funding rat race. Some of them were good teachers and wanted to do that and nothing else, some of them were lousy grantsmen (and usually lousy teachers) who were forced into teaching. The funding agencies expect a paper or two per year.
...Так кто ж ты, наконец? --- Я -- часть той силы, что вечно хочет зла и вечно совершает благо.Гете. "Фауст"
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Re: How does ziplock work?
by ScottE on Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:50 pm
I'm all for free and easy access whenever possible, that's for certain. But as it happens, Anchorage is a stiff 30-minute drive (the largest school is APU/UAA) away from where I live and work. Even so, neither university is a large subscriber of most of the paleo journals I'd like to read (The Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, the organ of SVP is not among their subs, unless a professor decides to explicitly request it.) A public library card does grant me access to community colleges' libraries and JSTOR subscriptions, but all that means is if it's available in PDF form online somewhere, I can get it via the internet.It's not as bad as all that, however. A lot has changed over the past ten or so years when I first started reading the tech lit. Now I can often e-mail an author directly, and get a copy from the author him or herself. Er, sometimes even within six months of publication. (Not that I'm complaining!) And some workers have websites with direct links to PDFy goodness.Most general-purpose books don't serve paleo-artists very well--at least not those as serious as I need to be, so I can't live without that access; at least, so long as my desire to create anatomically-accurate reconstructions remains part of my intended oeuvre. (Maybe I should offer an "art for paper" program. Send me the paper and I'll send along a reconstruction. Maybe even within six months!)
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